>define `drastic site change'
no idea how to define that, I meant 7agat zay changing to new software, disabling a popular feature (no foum masalan).

if you think this has no place in the charter mashi, it is a bit redundant since the charter states no action shall violate which means we can't violate the basic principles of openness and democracy.

>exclude anonymous cowards from votes
لو سمحت اسمهم الأشخاص الخجولة المجهولة ya moftary

they're excluded doesn't it say somewhere that only members are allowed to vote?

and it says members are those who have an account on the website, yeb2a anonymous users are not members. (and they're technicaly excluded from all polls).

>find a word simpler than quorum.
sure we could say vote is only valid if at least blah blah number votes.

>presenting written voting petition? Hello overhead. Nothing will get >proposed.
I don't get this, this is the same requirment you used in your draft charter.

a thread in the forum is a written thing.

maybe the language I used is confusing, the point bas was not to mention the forum or any particular feature of the website, ya3ni we want the proposal posted somewhere on the website with the approval of this or that number of admins/mods/senior users/normal users etc.

somebody edit the thing and rephrase this until it makes sense.

>the quorum should be 50% of senoirs/mods/admins. Why exclude >mods/admins from quorum? Bring the number down to 50% because there >migh be idle members, this is natural. We don't want to embark on >lengthy communal introspections on what is wrong every time we have >a poll just because there are sleepers
I meant seniors and above my bad. 50% is fine by me, it was just a placeholder value, 51% minimum is needed to be considered a democratic entity by egyptian law BTW.

>define `drastic cases'. This reeks of open-ended martial law.

the text says

>In drastic cases where a decision has to be made even under a state >of strong discord, the result of the poll after two periods is >sufficient.

typicaly in other organizations if quorum fails, another attempt is made, with a later date, if quorum fails again another attempt is made but the third attempt is valid regardless of the numbers.

in egyptian law the three attempts can be anounced at once, ya3ni you could say we will do a gam3eya 3omomeya meeting at 10, in case of no quorum we'll wait till 12 in case of no quorum we'll wait till 2 then vote anyway.

now in theory if we fail to achieve quorum twice we could just ignore the matter we are voting on. and try again at a later more favoruable date.

but there may be situations where we do need to take a decision and we can't wait.

so we need some solution for this situation.

my suggestion was to accept the result of the second vote, in certain situations only, typical solution is to accept the result of a third vote in all situations.

anyone has suggestions?

I don't feel strongly about any option in particular?

cheers, Alaa

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