Submitted by MSameer on Sat, 21/01/2006 - 20:13.
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This is my own opinion, And I can't say that I'm not one of them.

I'm one of those admins and I can say that I'm not really doing what I should be doing as a administrator.

The current admins are:

Me, Alaa "both of us are half-active", Conceptor "He might be trying to be active but he's not doing anything", whirlpool and ezabi "both useless IMHO".

The drupal upgrade has been stalling for a long time until I managed to push the process.

info@eglug.org email is full of SPAM and and 2 unanswered emails. One of them is a member seeking help and the other is asking asking for help to organize a workshop about GNU/LINUX.

The website has 2 things to be done after the upgrad: the top search entry is not working and more RSS feeds wnted yet no admin except me is welling to do it ?

Even our poll monkey is not active.

What do you all think ?


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Mohammed Ahmed's picture

as all Admin are Idle then i think we hope to find new spirit at the Mods. ,

We may face proplem here what if they are not qualified and as solution i suggest you gave them 2 or 3 sessions on how to manage our drupal ...

what you think guys >?

What you think mods..??


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Are the mods active

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Are the mods active ?


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active

Mohammed Ahmed's picture

if you wanna get active admin then i can`t see any acive memebrs but

please that is my opnion it may be not true as i am not active my self

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Pherounix

mohamed plz suggest something... i feel you saying lets close it :)

Best Regards


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huh

Conceptor's picture
mohamed plz suggest something... i feel you saying lets close it :)

if you don't have any useful suggestions ,don't propose funny consequences


Diaa Radwan

Diaa or mohammed

Mohammed Ahmed's picture

i think your name is Diaa not mohammed and as i didnot violate the AUP i am free to say what ever i want , you have no right to say that and if you think its funny , its funny because YOU don`t do your job as admin being admin is not honour postion you have duties to do not to through every thing on mohamed sammer

Salam


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it's Me

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i am free to say what ever i want

Yes but on topic dude.

so if I have said funny as a comment.it's my right,but you do not have the right to say you don't do your job ,you can't judge.

I don't think your post was funny ,I think it's fantasia more than being funny.and i did not find the fun because "I do not do my job" (note:the topic they perform bad,not they aren't do their job )

do not to through every thing on mohamed sammer

let me assume this is a fact,this will not be the right way to build constructive talks.again it will not help here.


Diaa Radwan

Huh

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as it yes , then why you commented , it was on topic , suggest something realistic or not is not ur business, and you don`t ahve the right to tell me that , again you are Diaa not Mohammed

and if you cant find the right word and you cant choose funny or fantasy then don`t say it .........!!!!!!

we are not talking about funny or not we talking about what should be done and i think i suggest soemthing you don`t like it its up to you ( although its your fault )

the topic was bad performance but ( Conceptor "He might be trying to be active but he's not doing anything ) should i put it in CAPS..??

again i think that is enough ( Conceptor "He might be trying to be active but he's not doing anything )

------------ constructive ---------------

as i rememebr you made big noise one day to be admin.

as i remember youssef left his place to solve the proplem.

I think its volunteer work and because its , its should be done , no one forced you to be admin you cant take it , leave it

Where were you the site was down for 1.5 or 2 days ,you don`t come here for 2 days...?? Whirlpool forgot the password ..!!!

Guess what Alaa or mohamed sammer( i can`t remember ) fixed it from uganda ( apache need a restart)

again administartion here is not honour postion ,not to say that you are eglug admin.

i think that is clear

BTW : why we don`t make donation section so( no one will know who paid what ) so money won`t rule

Salam


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in hope to be clear

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  1. Youssef did not left his place for me
  2. the big noise because rules did applied correctly
  3. I know that Apache need restarting while the site was down,and I mailed this to Alaa(there was reason for that)
  4. you shouldn't put it on caps I can see it,but this is Mohamed's opinion and it's not necessary to be the fact.
  5. Money is not the issue here
  6. don't say you didn't came for 2 days ,simply this isn't correct
  7. it's not honorary (I know it)
  8. we are trying to give constrictive solution.not through accusations and counted cases.

Diaa Radwan

i hopee too

Mohammed Ahmed's picture

1- he left it to solve the proplem for you for some one els i didnot said he left it for you but you the one who made the noise

2- no comment

3- there is alwayes reason for every thing - every one don`t do what he should do he have reason and excuse but what is the conclusion the conclusion is his work is not finished yet becuse there is reason

4- i think there is reasons for his opnion - he is admin

5- i didnot said it proplem i said BTW

6- if you came and you found the site down why you didnot SSH to and restart it, you forgot the passwd..??

7- I know you know .. so what !!!!

8- i said it we should look at the mods and admins would consultant job when the mod can`t do it they ask the admins

but the major of work will be done by mods.


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يا محمد مين

Conceptor's picture

يا محمد مين قالك إن انا معامللتش ssh

يوسف مشى قبل الأنتخابات بتاعت المراقبين مامشيش عالشانى بعد المراقبين كان فى مدراء الموقع

الضوضاء ماكانتش من فراغ و بعدين من قالك إنى نسيت كلمه السر علشان الكلام يكون فى فايدة منه لازم نشوف يتحل او يتحسن إزاى مش فلان عمل و ابتدى اتخيل هو عمل كده ليه من وحى الخيال ده مش هايضيف جديد و مش هنوصل لحاجه

Diaa Radwan

Diaa i wasnot attacking

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Diaa i wasnot attacking you personally as diaa and i wished you would get me,,

i was so upset from what happening and msammer post gave me the entry to say what i feel msameer him self said it

i won`t go further on that although msammer saying u don`t have the passwd ....

i am upsset and mad at you all i am upset from my self we should be better

i am calling for admins and members meeting to discuess that its long time since we had gathering or something simmilar guys we should meet

now i ahve midyear vacation ( finished exams ba2a) and i wanna c you all


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This is becoming a

MSameer's picture

This is becoming a personal attack and/or a flame war.

I stated my opinion as a LUG meber not as an admin.

Diaa didn't have the root password for the server so he can't restart apache.

Youssef didn't leave the adminship for diaa, He left it because he didn't have time.

again: THE ADMIN POSITION IS A PURE TECHNICAL POSITION TO TAKE CARE OF THE WEB SITE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORGANIZING EVENTS AND THE COMMUNITY HAS THE RIGHTS TO JUDGE THE ADMIN TEAM AT ANY TIME.


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I'd suggest an early

phaeronix's picture

I'd suggest an early re-election. That way everyone will have a fair chance. The introduction to adminship session is a nice idea too.

Agree.

YoussefAssad's picture

I suggest I make a new poll of no confidence in the current team. If there's no clear objections to this move within 6 hours I'm posting the poll and I'll keep it up one week.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses

I don't think that all the

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I don't think that all the tam should be subjected to this, But I agree so we won't split the community.

AFAICT, we need 27 ballots for such a vote ?


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You are correct

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Practically, you and Alaa are still valuable members and I will support you for re-election. But we know this because we know each other, the rest of the community doesn't. For them, a team is a team.

It's cleaner like this.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses

Support us ? The community

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Support us ? The community should support us if they hink that are valuable as an administrators.

I said that Iagree on the vote so we won't split the community.

but I still think that we need 27 ballots for the vote.


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Yes, my support

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I am still a member of this community. As a member, I will support you.

I'm getting tired of having to explain myself to you. Mohamed, the adversarial attitude is something I can only take for so long; eventually, it will become too much for me and then we've both lost.

Now, do we have enough points to make the poll?

-- Panem et *burp* circenses

What adversarial attitude

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What adversarial attitude are you talking about ?


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Agree

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is there anybody counting


Diaa Radwan

why don't you start

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why don't you start counting ?

me: 9 diaa: 18

who's next ??


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me

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what is the weight of a senior


I Was Known as POSIX

3

Conceptor's picture

يسوى كتير يا باشا بس إنت قول اه ثلاث نقاط لا غير


Diaa Radwan

3

Mohammed Ahmed's picture

3 dol ye3mlo 7agat kebra gedan dol yeng7o nas we yes2to nas.

we sotak amana


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in elections

DarKnesS_WolF's picture

in the poll it's self ur vote is only with 1 point. same as the admins / mods / seniors / normal users ... please someone correct me .

EDITED ====posted before reading the next comment=====

peace


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1, go read the MCAP

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1, go read the MCAP "?".


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My fault, It's 3. Shall

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My fault, It's 3.

Shall I count you or not ?


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yes

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yes count me i was aksing as saying yes i know its 3 :)


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Me: 9 Diaa: 9 POSIX:

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Me: 9

Diaa: 9

POSIX: 3


Total: 21


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You act like I don't exist

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I am still a member of this community.

24. One more senior and we vote.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses

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