Posted by Alaa on Tue, 14/09/2004 - 05:39 :: EGLUG events

last saturday Leila and Douaa from ArabDev joined us in the gathering to tell us about their FOSS initiative and discuss posibilities of cooperation.

Arabdev are organizing a series of workshops and trainings on the use of computers and the internet, with school children in the governerate of Menya (among other places).

they want the next set of courses to include sessions about FOSS and GNU/Linux (for many obvious reasons), but their experience with FOSS is limited.

so EGLUG is to become a partner in this project (arabdev have a wonderful attitude about this, when they say partner they realy mean partner :-) and help in training the kids, and in finding and training a small community to further support the young FOSS users.

the ultimate goal is to leave behind a local LUG that can take over from us.

now the folks from arabdev need to know an estimate of how many volunteers we can provide, so who is willing to volunteer to go to el menya, to train and empower the people there?

follows is the proposed time table sent by ArabDev

الأنشـــــــــــــطةالموعد المقترحموضوع التدريبمكان التدريب
لقاء إعلامي للمديرين والإدارة المدرسية بالمشروع 20 شخصالخميس 7 أكتوبر 2004 بعد اليوم الدراسىلقاء اعلامى عن المشروع وأهدافه... وأنشطته المختلفةفى الادارة التعليمية بأبو قرقاص أو ملوى
تدريب المدرسين ونظرائهم من المجتمع المحلى ( التدريب الاساسى أو الأولى ) 35 شخصالخميس بعد اليوم الدراسى والجمعة فى الايام التالية خلال شهر ديسمبر
2004 2 &; 3 / ديسمبر
9 &; 10 / ديسمبر
16 &; 17 / ديسمبر
مهارات عامة فى برامج الكمبيوترفى مدرسة مجهزة بابو قرقاص أو ملوى
التدريب المتميز للمتدربين 15 متدرب4 أيام خلال أجازة نصف العام 2005Linux technicalفى مدرسة مجهزة بابو قرقاص أو ملوى
تدريب الطلبة 500 طالب وطالبةمن فبراير 2005 حتى نهاية المشروع General and Linux technicalكل مجموعة فى المدرسة التابعة لها
تدريب الطلبة المتميزين تدريبا متخصصاً 75 طالب وطالبة فى بداية أجازة الصيفLinux technicalسوف يتم تحديده لاحقاً

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Depends on
Conceptor's avatar
Posted by  Conceptor on Tue, 14/09/2004 - 14:03.

More details are needed ... if it will be giving courses to kids in schools it will be hard for me and for the kids too :). I can help in preparing infrastructure of the site ,installing O.S. ,and maintain the system .and of course going to El-Menya :)

Diaa Radwan


i don't understand any thing
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Posted by  maslan on Tue, 14/09/2004 - 18:08.

i don't understand any thing Maslan - Mohamed Abdelsalam Aslan
http://maslanedit.sf.net
http://maslancms.sf.net
if u don't need portability then why u don't use assembly ;-)


what part
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Posted by  Alaa on Tue, 14/09/2004 - 23:43.

what part don't you understand?

ArabDev will be organizing workshops and training on how to use FOSS and GNU/Linux, or more accuratly how to use computers through FOSS and GNU/Linux.

We EGLUG will be partners in this, we will provide FOSS knowhow, we will help organize the activities and we will volunteer as trainers in these courses.

cheers,

Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


1st i didn't understand anyth
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Posted by  maslan on Wed, 15/09/2004 - 04:24.

1st i didn't understand anything when i opened their site but now i got it

Maslan - Mohamed Abdelsalam Aslan
http://maslanedit.sf.net
http://maslancms.sf.net
Even if u don't need portability, u have to use assembly ;-)


i will be in Egypt by the fir
Posted by  DJ KING on Tue, 14/09/2004 - 20:07.

i will be in Egypt by the first week of Oct. if valunteers are still needed , i will be in ..

Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers. ;)

i'm still here
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Posted by  ramez.hanna on Sat, 18/09/2004 - 20:15.

count me in


the best things in life are free --- so as myself


schedule update
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Posted by  Alaa on Mon, 20/09/2004 - 17:17.

ArabDev sent us their proposed schedule, it seems GNU/Linux activities won't start before december.

good news is the bulk of the work will be on mid year and summer vacation, so we should be able to get more volunteers.

I updated the story above with the proposed time table, please check it out.

cheers,

Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


Menia School Training
Posted by  Leila on Fri, 24/09/2004 - 03:18.

Hello All, Thanks for your interest in volunteering to make FOSS a reality in Menia. I'm from ArabDev; please let me know if you have any questions/comments re the upcoming training. ArabDev would like to know how you would like to structure the training - what would come first, how long each session will be, how the communication channels between the Menia and Cairo group will work, etc. We then can work on this until the hands-on December training.

structure of training
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Posted by  Alaa on Mon, 27/09/2004 - 15:08.

the structure of the training depends very much on its goals (specific goals) and on the level of knowledge the trainees have.

we need to know what you expect from this.

do we mix the basic computing skills with the GNU/Linux course (ie do we teach mouse and keyboard usage, GUI navigation, file/directory concepts, apps/interface/document concepts etc along with the usage of GNU/Linux??).

do we teach abstract concepts or just useful skills?

do we focus on desktop usage or do we takle certain applications or situations/scenarios?

do we cover installation and troubleshooting?

we need a set of detailed and precise goals to work with, if you don't have such clear goals then we need to sit down and discuss them.

cheers,

Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


Make survey..
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Posted by  Conceptor on Mon, 27/09/2004 - 18:18.

you can make survey there and determine which resource do they need. and start to put plane according to the given case. classify candidates to specific class level . beginner , user , skilled user , superusers . for volunteers make also survey to pick instructor for every class . this may be a general idea but we can sit and discuss I forget to tell "Count me in "

Diaa Radwan


Structuring the trainng
Posted by  Leila on Tue, 28/09/2004 - 15:02.

Thanks Alaa and Diaa for your replies. Following your thoughts and our previous discussion at the Sakkia:

  1. We will have the largest possible number of trainees at the start, encomprising different IT skills level as sometimes a novice can become interested and turn out to be more into learning than someone with more advanced skills, Alaa you mentioned this in our discussion. So we give the trainers the opportunity to see first hand who is promising.
  2. That means we will have a general hands on training in basic computer skills and then gradually push the envelope as far as the group can take.
  3. At one point then the trainer(s) have to split up the group into sub-groups that can be trained on different skill levels.
  4. the training overall should comprise the basic skills up to GNU/Linux, with troubleshooting and recycled computer reconditioning.
  5. The final goal is to have a fully functioning FOSS group in Menia that then can "spread the light" in other areas of the Sa'id. For the other, less advanced, groups the goal is to let them use a FOSS for personal and business reasons. We should encourage interested students to get more involved so that they might want to go on to a university education in IT.
  6. Training is primarily geard towards hands-on practical skills (definitely scenarios/applic. solutions, etc.) peppered with theoretical parts to round it up. Again different groups will be exposed to differen levels of knowledge.
General cources first
Posted by  mody on Fri, 01/10/2004 - 18:29.

I agree with conceptor - we should clasify condidates - but in order to do that we have to start general cources or workshops with the targeted students/intersts - Through my direct contact with such areas I thing such activities and support would creat a proffessional group in Menya - Liela I think to have a large number of trainees, we need as well a suitable number of PCs (as possible) in a suitable environment and facilties. As well you might need to announce in Menya about these courses to attract any experienced individuals who live around and would like to participate and support this initiative somehow. Go on - good luck - Alaa I am in. Mahmoud Fouad

Training location
Posted by  شخص خجول مجهول on Sun, 03/10/2004 - 15:09.

Mahmoud, thanks for your comment and Ahlan Bik. The training will be taking place in 5 junior/high schools in Menia, in Abou Korkass and Mallawi Marakez. We have looked at the school labs before selecting the schools, the labs have betw. 15-25 PCs. We are finalizing right now the paperwork, e.g. permissions to work with the schools from the Ministry of Education and the individual schools. Simultaneously we are letting the schools communities know about this initiative to attract the needed amount of trainees.

posted anonymously
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Posted by  Alaa on Sun, 03/10/2004 - 19:36.

Leila try to post when you're logged in, otherwise the comment appears to be an anonymous one and anonymous comments have to pass moderator approval.

cheers,

Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


Excellent
Posted by  mody on Mon, 04/10/2004 - 02:19.

That is okey, go on I whish you good luck ... and if you face any difficulties in permissions from MOE or others please let us know, we might be able to assist somehow. As Alaa said don't forget to log on before posting comments.

Mahmoud Fouad

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