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Submitted by Manal on Thu, 17/06/2004 - 14:33.
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تم اقتراح فكرة تقديم كورسات عن البرمجيات الحرة خاصة بـ EGLUG, يقوم بتقديمها أعضاء EGLUG لأعضاء EGLUG. تحدثنا مع العاملين بساقية عبد المنعم الصاوى فى إمكانية إسخدام معمل الكمبيوتر الخاص بهم, فتحمسوا جدا للفكرة و وافقوا عليها.

نريد الآن عمل قائمة بالكورسات التى يستطيع بعض الأعضاء تقديمها, و قائمة أخرى بالكورسات التى يريد الأعضاء تعلمها.

إذا كنت تريد تعلم أى شىء خاص بالبرمجيات الحرة, أو إذا كنت تستطيع إعطاء كورس عنها, اكتب ما تريد تعلمه أو ما تستطيع تقديمه فى هذا القسم.

We were thinking of having EGLUG courses, free software courses given by EGLUG members to EGLUG members. We spoke with the ppl at the Culture Wheel Center (Sakiet Abd El Mon3em El Sawy) about the possibility of using their lab to give the courses, they thought it was a great idea and they are willing to lend us the lab :)

So we want to make a list of the courses that some members are willing to give and a list of the courses the members want to have.

If u want to learn something or if u can give some course, plz post about it here.

cheers,
Manal

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really perffect :-)
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Submitted by DarKnesS_WolF on Thu, 17/06/2004 - 15:00.

this is really amzing idea and really EL-sakia guys looks soo helpfull :) i guess there is have to be some grafiacs courses like gimp for example ( i`m just give an idea i can`t give coruses or even attend one :( ) peace

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Nice Idea
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Submitted by SeeKeR on Thu, 17/06/2004 - 19:37.

this is very nice idea , it help the members with linux experince to get teaching experince and the newbies 'like me' to get the linux experince . but i know that to use the computer lab and the library in sakia u must be a member so all EGLUG going to be members in sakia ?and what about the fees?!. i think ' linux --> essential skills ' course will have great popularity.

THERE'S A FISHING , SO GO FISHING !!!!!


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Re: Nice Idea
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Submitted by Alaa on Thu, 17/06/2004 - 20:24.

Sakia membership costs something like 20 or 30 LE a year, so its not a big deal at all, and they deserve it for all the help they're giving us.

hmm can you explain more what is Linux -> Essential Skills (what are the essential skills in your opinion)?

cheers,
Alaa

http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


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Essentials course should be like that ...
SeeKeR's picture
Submitted by SeeKeR on Fri, 18/06/2004 - 00:11.

Wanna know What is FOSS and GPL licence and diff types of linux DISTRO

  1. How to install
  2. Filesytem types
  3. Using Command-line and shells
  4. Navigating and Managing linux filesytems
  5. etc.....

Something like that !

THERE'S A FISHING , SO GO FISHING !!!!!


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great idea ! ! ! i suggest a
ramez.hanna's picture
Submitted by ramez.hanna on Fri, 18/06/2004 - 17:32.
great idea ! ! !
i suggest also courses in
    openoffice writer/calc
    simple firewall configuration for those who want to have DSL at home

the best things in life are free --- so as myself


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here we go!
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Submitted by arius32 on Sat, 19/06/2004 - 22:36.

ok i belive i can spare a few houres every week for (gimp2 + inkscape + scribus) DTP on linux cource and a CAD/3D course for architects too if ppl want it i belive it can be on tuesday morning only.

got Slack? get counted


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I'm in
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Submitted by YoussefAssad on Sun, 20/06/2004 - 10:10.

Off the top of my head, I can volunteer to teach general desktop usage.

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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just to compete with the gunman!
arius32's picture
Submitted by arius32 on Sun, 20/06/2004 - 14:40.

any one want's to learn about xfce, teach him i can, much to teach about desktops there is not.

got Slack? get counted


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Really now...
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Sun, 20/06/2004 - 15:34.

We want to show people that linux is good.

Why would we do something silly like showing them xfce?

And where are my asbestos boxer shorts?

No but seriously, I think we could all do general desktop usage. It is not much more than just showing them how to press the power button and illustrating that just because it is linux and not windows doesn't mean it will blow up, and showing them the common programs, etc.

I am considering telling the Sakia people that they can announce these classes for their members in case we don't get enough people here who want to learn...

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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eglug members
Submitted by Joker Prince on Sun, 20/06/2004 - 16:06.

it's a very nice idea of course, but why is it only for eglug members?? we can give courses to anyone who wants to get to linux. And this could be a very good beginning to free software, free courses!! people need to learn sharing and volunteering before they learn linux.

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Good point
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Mon, 21/06/2004 - 10:52.

I think we'll use the EGLUG meeting on 03/07 to finalize details of the courses, such as who can attend, how do we advertise, etc. I have spoken with the people at el Sakia and they would love to be bale to announce linux classes on their mailing list, which has as I recall 4,500 subscribers... That is one option.

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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Hellozzzz This sounds like a
Submitted by systems on Mon, 21/06/2004 - 11:20.

Hellozzzz
This sounds like a cool idea

I didnt read almost any of the replies or even most of the
original post, fa i can be completely redudant or off topic

anyway

I like the idea, I think it will be useful

Many times, i need help in lots of little things irc, or the forums, can be akward for such things a face to face mentor, might be cool

i would like to have, like after each course (if this will be a weekly event or something) a trouble shooting session

ppl with problems talk face to face with the more expert and solve their little issue

  • font looks bad
  • a certain program wont install
  • my pc is overloaded with heat
  • etc...


it can turn to a nice, course+ts (trouble shooting), weekly event session thingie
by the way, the arabic is confusing, i want an english only interface >:(

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I like your input
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Mon, 21/06/2004 - 12:14.

We're planning on deciding all these things at the EGLUG meeting on 03/07 at El Sakia (yes, it is confirmed, noon). Please come to the meeting and give us this input.

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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i can help
ramez.hanna's picture
Submitted by ramez.hanna on Mon, 21/06/2004 - 13:06.

i think i can help in getting the windows user familiar with the linux enviroment in REDHAT and i can help also with GIMP

the best things in life are free --- so as myself


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FireWall
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Submitted by kernel_canine on Sat, 26/06/2004 - 14:37.

Hello,

I can help in FireWall courses, and IDS if any1 need it And May Be some PHP , and MySQL will not hurt , LOL

Compliment from the Canine's world

Kind Regards Kernel The Canine


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Brilliant
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Sun, 27/06/2004 - 11:37.

Come to the meeting on 03/07, and we will decide on who teaches what when and to whom. Good to have you on board. Cheers :)

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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Learn Linux => very good book
Submitted by snefro on Sun, 27/06/2004 - 08:49.

http://rute.sourceforge.net

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A book for students?
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Sun, 27/06/2004 - 11:38.

snefru, you gave me a great idea; this book can be distributed to students at the EGLUG courses. Something to discuss at the meeting.

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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Best of the best books !!!!
Submitted by snefro on Sun, 27/06/2004 - 20:22.

Hi Youssef,

Distribute as long as it's in electronic format, not hard copies. Please, read the license carefully.

It may help to put the electornic form (*.html files & pdf files) on a CD and give it to attendees.

This book can work as a referrence, but for start => this is the best ever I saw ...browsing and printing..:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/l-dw-linux-lpir21-i.html?S_TACT=104AHW03&S_CMP=ZHP

Get the whole parts for the courses:

- introductory level - intermediate level

Download and print as you can :)

Best Wishes...

see also:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/newto/index.html

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Very good point
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Mon, 28/06/2004 - 09:54.

I'm glad you're looking at licensing. :)

Tell you what, can you bring these tihngs to the meeting so we can give them to the linux lab at El Sakia? That would be great. When we're there, remind me that you brought them and I'll introduce you to the people running it so you can explain to them what this is and how to use it.

Thanks :)

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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Hi, I think I won't be abl
Submitted by snefro on Mon, 28/06/2004 - 15:00.

Hi,

I think I won't be able to do so thought I would like to. Reason is that I'm not in Egypt right now :-(

Regards, Snefo

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No Problem
Submitted by شخص خجول مجهول on Mon, 28/06/2004 - 20:00.

Hello,

If you ar enot in Egypt, No Problem Can you upload these files to a FTP, and then we burn them, and others start using 'em What you think

Regards Kernel The Canine

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oh oh , there is an approval required
Submitted by شخص خجول مجهول on Mon, 28/06/2004 - 20:02.

oh oh

There is an approval required on posts, is that new or just at some places

I'm not so comfort with that Kind Regards Kernel The Canine

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only for anonymous comments
Alaa's picture
Submitted by Alaa on Mon, 05/07/2004 - 09:09.

only anonymous comments require approval.

don't worry we don't plan to turn this into a hellish dictatorship.

and remember once the charter and policies are ratified they protect your rights, and also remember if you don't like them you can change them when they come up for review.

cheers,
Alaa

http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


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It`s Very Nice
Submitted by khaled on Sat, 03/07/2004 - 22:06.

i want 2 learn How to install Filesytem types Using Command-line and shells Navigating and Managing linux filesytems etc and it will be very nice and i`ll be the first one in El-Sakia :D

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great idea
Submitted by soppy_boy on Mon, 05/07/2004 - 21:25.

guys all of this ideas is gr8 ones .... but if we plan to do courses we must start with the basic of linux ...how to use it what is the open source operating system? why it is good? and so on .... i think Book as ( studying linux in 24 hours ) will be a good start as myself i will join this cours (itś just my opinion) -== Rules Are Made To Be Broken ==-

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The thing is, average person
OneOfOne's picture
Submitted by OneOfOne on Tue, 06/07/2004 - 15:15.

The thing is, average person dont care.

First show them that linux runs better than windows then tell them why linux is good and why opensource/GNU/Linux/GPL are good morally.

I for one moved to (gentoo) linux not because it was "free", I moved because it worked better for me and my needs.

Also using an easy to use distro is a good idea, mandrake is a good bet.

peace


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No no NOOOO!
YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Tue, 06/07/2004 - 15:27.

This is not happening... OneofOne advocating... (GULP) MANDRAKE?

The universe will implode in fifteen minutes. Ladies and gentlemen, it was nice knowing you.

OneofOne :p

-- Linux Egypt Lice Resident


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haha, well although i started
OneOfOne's picture
Submitted by OneOfOne on Tue, 06/07/2004 - 15:51.

haha, well although i started with gentoo but I'm not crazy enough to recommend gentoo to first-timers, it can be a total turn off!

On a pentium4 2.2 it'd take around 36hours to get base system + xorg + kde, tell that to a newbie and he'll most likely leave linux for good.

peace


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what research are you relying on
Alaa's picture
Submitted by Alaa on Tue, 06/07/2004 - 16:27.

personaly I started using GNU/Linux because of the ideals of Free software, I very much doubt that we can know anything as elusive as motive for the average user without doing some proper research.

at the moment we're not strategising, any courses that can be done shall be done (murphy courses).

cheers,
Alaa

http://www.manalaa.net

"u know i once dream that the office of mobinil is from el 7`os :S and the one that answer u and tell u rasidak a girl called ghada"


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