Submitted by Alaa on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 01:29.
( categories: EGLUG Website )

This is a call to all Senior Members it is finally time we elected our team of moderators. if you're interested in helping keep the EGLUG website in shape and well organized please nominate yourselfs.

نداء لكل الاعضاء القدامى، وقت انتخاب فريق المراقبين أزف، من يريد أن يشارك فى تنظيم و تنسيق صفحة EGLUG يمكنه ترشيح نفسه.

according to the list of Senior Members we have 28 seniors, and according to the Members Class Assignment Policy moderators should be 20% the number of seniors at election time, this means we need to elect 6 moderators.

وفقا لقائمة الاعضاء القدامى عدد القدامى 28 و وفقا لسياسة تصنيف الأعضاء فريق المراقبين يجب أن يكون 20% من عدد الأعضاء القدامى وقت الانتخابات، اذن علينا انتخاب 6 مراقبين.

as you all know we've announced elections before but failed to deliver (this time is for real and we got the pizza to prove it) so we'll assume the old list of nominees is still valid please add your name if you want to run for moderatorship.

the window for nomination will be closed next sunday the 16th of Jan or three days after the last candidate added to the list whichever is longer then we'll start the voting process immediatly.

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edit the list to add yourself

this is a good time to reread our charter and policies to make sure you understand your rights and our democratic process.


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Submitted by whirlpool on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 14:17.

this is a quick sketch of what the admins here need to do to ensure fair elections, this is ofcourse is debatable

  • Two admins atleast must track drupal logs from election time till results are announced, may be setting wget to download the log every several hours and checking it to see any suspected removal or deletion in the logs happened. they should post the result of this log examination even if it was negative.
  • One admin must publish the log from the start of electins till the announcement of results. complete drupal log, (emails and other sensetive info can be replaced by X.
  • external user (@drupal.org etc..) login must be disabled till end of elections.
  • no new users should be allowed to sign up till the end of elections
  • any error from the ranking vote module in the logs should schedual a repeat in the vote ?
  • ranking vote source code must be published and available for several days before the vote for, other php geeks to audit

Submitted by NewComer on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 15:18.

We might as well call for International Observers. Just kidding :)

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Submitted by Alaa on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 16:28.

personally I would prefer to just trust the community a little, IMO extreme discord like attempts to game the vote will make themselves obvious (not the attempt but the discord),

anyways oppening logs can be done (we'll use drupals watchdog module) drupal logins will be closed but I don't agree with blocking new users thats too much trouble for what I consider an insignificant threat.

note that in a ranking system the actual order of the candidates is not important we're choosing 6, to game the system and affect the outcome in anyway except reordering winners or swapping to very close candidates requires too many illegal votes, this would be obvious in the logs (too many new users voting).

in the future we should make it an open voting process (ie you get to see who voted what) but at the moment lets just stop being paranoid and let it be.

and finally please enjoy RankingVoteModule

cheers, Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net "i`m feeling for the 2nd time like alice in wonderland reading el wafd"


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Submitted by ezabi on Fri, 14/01/2005 - 00:50.

Guys, I think he who is stupid enough to cheat to be a mod or an admin deserves it we yestahel elli yegralo.
From the way the charter is made it's more of a responsibility and burden than it is a privilege (unless u r a brag-o-maniac)


Submitted by NewComer on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 15:16.

What are the responsibilities of a moderator? what are his powers and restrictions? what is expected from him?

Is dental insurance included? :D

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Submitted by Manal on Sun, 09/01/2005 - 15:32.

u can found the rules in the charter, article 5.

the resources available for moderators can be found at The Resource Usage Policy


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Submitted by systems on Thu, 13/01/2005 - 09:20.

I voted against the charter, so remember that you don't have to like the charter (i.e. the role of the moderator in our context)

And to prove my point become a moderator, and just ignore the charter completely (don't even read it, I seriously challenge that the list of nominee all read the charter or even know about it) and observe how no one cares.

Except maybe the one who wrote the charter.

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Submitted by Alaa on Thu, 13/01/2005 - 11:48.

you have to accept the charter since it was voted on (even if you don't like it), and you have to put an effort into ammending it (happens once every year but discussion can happen anytime).

moderators who violate the charter will not be moderators for long though, their job is to help everyone stick to the charter and policies.

BTW policies are more flexible, meaning they can be changed whenever we feel the need to.

cheers, Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net "i`m feeling for the 2nd time like alice in wonderland reading el wafd"


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Submitted by MohammedSameer on Sat, 15/01/2005 - 23:29.

hmmmm, Is a comment like this against the charter so we unpublish it ?


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Submitted by Alaa on Sat, 15/01/2005 - 23:57.

a comment is against the AUP not the charter, charter states general principles.

cheers, Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net "i`m feeling for the 2nd time like alice in wonderland reading el wafd"


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Submitted by MohammedSameer on Sun, 16/01/2005 - 00:11.

OK, is it against the AUP ?


-- I was known as Uniball!
WWW: http://www.foolab.org/
Quote "c u next life time then when i come back as a mug of tea :P"


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Submitted by whirlpool on Sun, 16/01/2005 - 00:16.

Youssef should not direct personal attacks. The comment should be removed.


Alaa's picture
Submitted by Alaa on Sun, 16/01/2005 - 00:18.

lets unpublish it already

cheers, Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net "i`m feeling for the 2nd time like alice in wonderland reading el wafd"


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Submitted by YoussefAssad on Tue, 18/01/2005 - 23:56.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses


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