Submitted by ezabi on Fri, 11/02/2005 - 12:41.
( categories: Advocacy | Events )

Well, clearly as the title states, let's start thiniking and preparing for the next install fest.

Points to be considered at the moment:

  • Date: 1st of May 2005
  • Ideas?? Suggestions??
  • Who volunteers for what
  • The usual CD's shortage
  • What CD's
  • Anything else you might think of

YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Fri, 11/02/2005 - 19:50.

I volunteer to help with organization. I think it is logical, if we do the isntallfest as Sakia, that I arrange it with them. I did so last year, and they have gotten used to me in this role. I have already mentioned the idea to them, and they are very enthusiastic.

I think the 1st of May is good for 2 reasons: 1. It is a public holiday 2. It will mean we're making a tradition. Newcomer, however, had reason to suggest the beginning of April. I can't remember why; Newcomer, remind me.

We're going to need more solid demonstrations. Alaa's zero-to-LAMP was pretty popular, so maybe we need a couple of other people doing that. I'll be holding focus groups, I think; that worked pretty well last year. Just a group of 10 or 12 sitting in a circle discussing. We want demos on everything from simple (how to use x-chat and other common apps) to complex (how to stop katoob from crashing thin clients, Asterisk, etc.) Come on people, VOLUNTEER. Do it NOW so you have time to practise and so we know who's going to do what.

Companies: Which ones? I propose that we get IBM sgsin; they have seen now what we can do after last InstallFest and I think they will be more respectful this year. If we can agree on this, I know the relevant people there and can begin contacting them. Also, I work now for an open source consultancy; we can probably arrange something in terms of demos, etc. Last year, we were weak at addressing enterprise-class visitors. I and my people can handle that this year.

The usual CD shortage ill be solved with a distributed effort. We decide which distro, and we all burn at home and have our copies ready THE WEEK BEFORE. It would be nice to allow everyone to make copies of their favorite distro, but this is not practical. We will distribute linux copies, and we will be handling technical support for these new users afterwards. This should affect our choice of distro. My inclination is to go for Mandrake, and let's also have phaeronix available (Islam, get your butt in gear and tell us what you need to get your baby up, polished, and ready for n00bs).

These are my initial thoughts.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses


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Submitted by ramez.hanna on Fri, 11/02/2005 - 22:36.

well i have no idea about what was done last year and i hope i can do something about it this year.
i also work for a company that provide FOSS based services and i think they would like to do something too (the SMB sector if we can get any to attend)
i can volunteer for thin client howto maybe a php howto (if the one i did b4 was good enough)
other than that i'm here to help


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Submitted by Conceptor on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 01:05.

I missed the last InstallFest .but i won't miss the upcoming event . anyway this InstallFest 2005 will have much better luck than 2004 ,as you guys (organizers) have the experience of organizing such a thing.so we can forecast number of machines ,demanded cds,distros , what will be needed and what to enhance.

moreover i think we have more community partners ,NGOs, media and active members .those will help promoting event and in distribute the load on members .

i think it's perfect to start organizing for this event early as much as we can,so we can prepare more than proper presentation or solution . but it may pass some idle time.

the last installfest was organized on wiki page ,and it was a new idea of using wiki , for organizing an even .it was successful .

we can also prepare a InstallFest FAQs. to answer some question for people whom are hardly hear about the LUG. encouraging them to bring their PCs .and what so ever.

Diaa Radwan


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Submitted by arius32 on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 03:12.

This time i think i can give a much better GFX on linux thingy, since now I AM Running Linux in a professional DTP environment (my day job) might even have a few pages printed (properly) this time, sure as hell i'm in.

got Slack? get counted


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Submitted by Radi0ShacK on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 08:30.

hi all, i think i can help in any thing... and about cdz problem, first we decide which distro to use then we start collecting cds from donners i think we should start soon. ThnXAloT Amr Kamel.


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Submitted by Radi0ShacK on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 11:06.

"We want demos on everything from simple (how to use x-chat and other common apps) to complex (how to stop katoob from crashing thin clients, Asterisk, etc.)" youssef what do u mean by demos "i think u mean to papers, articles, tutorials that will be printed and distributed to ppl" is that right? if so that's a good idea and i will start from now. we should point out who will write what. i will start writing a paper on how to use vi text editor and i will use some info from vi lecture that Diaa gave. so plz any one who is interested in writting any thing just say on what topic u will write. ThnXAloT Amr Kamel.


YoussefAssad's picture
Submitted by YoussefAssad on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 14:00.

What I mean with demos is something like a mini-show. Say I am demoing basic desktop usage, I have a machine, I have small audience, and I give them a quick (15 to 30 minute, I think) presentation on everything; office apps, graphics apps, gaim, etc.

The thing is, most of the visitors will be newbies who don't know anything other than the FUD they've heard about Linux, and the best way to introduce someone to linux is to demonstrate it to them.

What you are talking about is equally important and valuable; printed materisl. I hereby officially pronounce Amr the official printed material coordinator. arius33 (c'mon, can't be 32 forever mate) will do the document design for you when you decide what we need and provide him with it. Remember, you don't have to do it all yourself, you just have to coordinate. Someone else can write, everyone gets to choose, someone else can design, but you are making sure it all happens smoothly.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses


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Submitted by MohammedSameer on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 13:10.

Like the wireless antenna building how to ?


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Radi0ShacK's picture
Submitted by Radi0ShacK on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 16:35.

So should i start ideas in this thread or in another or what? Amr Kamel.


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Submitted by ezabi on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 18:23.

Start the ideas now, and we can later sum'em up in a different context.

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Submitted by POSIX on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 19:41.

count me

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Submitted by ADminS on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 21:54.

Count me Too


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Submitted by MohammedSameer on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 22:02.

I guess we need a wiki for this ?


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Submitted by phaeronix on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 22:27.

Running and posting from the liveCD now, It's almost done now. I even got to test these 900Mb Cds.

So what do I do? I still need documentation and artwork. I need hardware detection testing and bug fixing.

Count me in, I'll try to help in any non-phaeronix aspect too.

Submitted by habdin on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 23:48.

Salamo 3alaikom,

I need to ask if it is welcomed for any members outside eglug and from Egyptian LUGs are welcome to cooperate in the install Fest. Question is how to let other LUGs know and to make them cooperate if they are welcome to.

Salam.

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Submitted by Alaa on Sat, 12/02/2005 - 23:58.

but for obvious reasons coordination would be done on the eglug.org website

but if you are asking weather we should formaly approach other groups like Linux-Egypt and CULUG and not just wait for them to show up, thats a different question.

again IMO we should, we should collect as many volunteers as is possible, one can never have enough volunteers.

cheers, Alaa


http://www.manalaa.net "i`m feeling for the 2nd time like alice in wonderland reading el wafd"


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Submitted by DJ KING on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 04:30.

we need no groups like Linux Egypt or CULUG .. we can do everything on our own .. we have enough experienced people .. we're the true believers .. all what we need to do is to set some challanges to work on them .. thats all what we need to do , we have time , we can arrange everything Cheers


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Submitted by maslan on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 09:26.

ya i agree with u , we just do it ourselves , but they can also participate too , but it's our event

Maslan - Mohamed Abdelsalam Aslan
I'm searching for perfection so, Even if u need portability, U've to use assembly ;-)
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Submitted by MohammedSameer on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 11:09.

It's NOT our event.

This event is for the sake of GNU/Linux and all of the people.

We are not the only LUG in Egypt, So saying that this is our event is IMHO equivalent to saying that Israel is the Representative for all the jews!


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Submitted by maslan on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 20:41.

Take it easy guys that why i hate to participate in forums , most of people missed my words. i meant "el tanzim" is ours which means the leadership, and shouldn't be compared to "israel", its something different

Maslan - Mohamed Abdelsalam Aslan
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Submitted by شخص خجول مجهول (not verified) on Thu, 17/02/2005 - 11:25.

This looks like somepeople want to do this to promote their careers only. I think there are enough people like this arround taking profits from the work of others.

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Submitted by arius32 on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 20:14.

remeber you cannont withhold the source code, or bar people from it, linux is not OUR THING, it's just like air and water and shade, could you claim that a LINUX install fest is your alone? , it's not a group thing, it's for every one.. besides, it sounds kindda mean to not accept help from other volenteers, that's totally against the entire concept of the GPL or FOSS.

I have spoken!

got Slack? get counted


maslan's picture
Submitted by maslan on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 20:46.

did i prevent anybody from linux source !

Maslan - Mohamed Abdelsalam Aslan
I'm searching for perfection so, Even if u need portability, U've to use assembly ;-)
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http://www.maslanlab.org
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http://maslanedit.sf.net
http://maslancms.sf.net


Submitted by POSIX on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 13:14.

weird thing from DJ KING do u vlunteer to hsow u are good and powerfull

or u doing that for GNU/linux if its the first thing i can understand why u said so if its the second thing i can`t understand why u said so

its not contest no one is the best

Submitted by Foreigner (not verified) on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 03:22.

Do you like someone to teach Debian GNU/Linux? Fin?

Submitted by kkkkkk (not verified) on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 15:50.

I can teach anything of Debian GNU/Linux

Submitted by systems on Sun, 13/02/2005 - 16:33.

Lets start from the beginning.

State your objectives clearly

Submitted by systems on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 15:46.

We want to promote linux (each have his own reason)

So we will prepare an event, where the center activity will be, installing linux on guests machines (boring!)

Others activities will include, distributing CDs, burning CDs, Boring presentation!

The place or whatever should be devide into section each section equiped with the resource it needs!

I really cannot imagine more to be done! Organize, equip, promote, wait for them to come !!!!

I guess the most important thing is that people should have fun, the more technically compotent the presenter is, the happier the audiance will be, I think

This is so ridiculously obvious hard work, where is the challenge!

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Submitted by mhlmi on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 19:25.

"boring presentations" can be made less boring if prepared well, people who give presentations can look "more technically competent" if they know what they're supposed to say, planning how "The place or whatever should be devided into sections" and the process of "distributing CDs" can be done better than last year with some effort, and hence the serious early planning for the event, but that's not all what's there to it, early planning can help raising innovative ideas that can benefit from such a relatively large event which only takes place once every year so far. if anyone happenns to have a great idea it's better to let people know about it before the installfest by a reasonable amount of time.... you got a point after all.

jah


Submitted by systems on Mon, 14/02/2005 - 23:21.

we are not doing something original, the previous fest was a huge sucess, the wiki was used to its full potential

can it be done again, can it be better

the key person in this, should go back to the old event documentation and add to it we keda

in theory as time passes more ppl learn about linux, more ppl can do stuff, but also at the same time, it might not be as exciting as the first, so maybe it will attrack less visitor, i dont i can get accurate date to make a more educated guess

a nice idea can be to distribute printed docs, photocopieying is cheap i think, we can find any 30 pages linux tut, print it make 500 copies? thanks what 180 piasters * 500 = 900 l.e right !!!

we need money for this thing !!! maybe printed docs aint so great, the money better goes to buy CDs, then we should hire a slave to burn them

so ezaki, start the wiki page, son of the wiki of the first fest, we can come up with a catchy name for this fest, "Linuxillica" or "linux'n'roses" and give it a heavy metal theme, all runnig linux machine will play metal music, i dunno, metal is makin a come back!

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