Manal and Alaa's bit bucket

while I'm not interested in a dispute on vocabulary I'll admit the words are misleading and to be perfectly honest are borrowed from the dictionary of western media.

there is a tendency to generalize and talk about political islam, while ignoring the differences between the various political ideologies and models that are inspired by islam, bas besara7a part of this tendency to generalize is the reluctance of many of these movements to critisize and diffrentiate.

and I think most people who sympathize with the islamic movements/ideologies do not dwell much on the differences (how many Egyptian youth seriously know the difference between al ekhwan, al jihad, al salafeyoun etc?)

al ekhwan IMO are delibratly blurring the difference in order to win over anyone who wants a state based on religion.

another point of vocabuloary is the whole dicussion of weather this is true islam or not, we are talking politics here not religion, what I care about is what are the policies that will be implemented under a democratically elected islamic government (by islamic government here i mean a government that denies a secular nation and operates on an ideology that does not seperate religion from state), how likely is it that speech will be silenced? I'm actually and optimist here and I believe its unlikely at least for the first years.

I understand that to you ezabi this is the most important debate, weather this is true islam or not, to me true islam is what the majority believes in.

islam in Egypt when it comes to politics is the islam of al sha3rawi, 3abd el sabour shahine, etc, I don't like it and I want a secular nation, you don't like and you want a true islamic nation.

the point is if we are under a true democracy you and I will both get our chances to really try and change things, maybe we'll reach your version of a true islamic nation, maybe we'll reach my version of a true secular nation, most probably we'll reach a complex and ever changing set of compromises like any real democratic nation (as in having more than two parties)

BTW since both Ezabi and Boody responded here, I'd like to invite each of you to write us what an islamic nation should look like in your mind.