Ikhwan Online blocked??

Submitted by alaa on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 06:40.

Arabist reports that ikhwan online might be blocked in Egypt.

this is not the first time this happens, and one case went to court, the government never denied the claims, but the sites where unblocked.

I don't know much yet but one big problem with blocking is to prove it happens, I want to collect traceroute data from all egyptian ISPs to confirm and document, please help

Link.net 


$ traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  router (192.168.0.1)  0.414 ms  0.336 ms  0.332 ms
 2  62.135.86.1 (62.135.86.1)  341.498 ms  301.400 ms  379.071 ms
 3  * 172.17.4.149 (172.17.4.149)  615.741 ms  514.956 ms
 4  * 172.17.4.121 (172.17.4.121)  527.554 ms 172.17.4.101 (172.17.4.101)  478.521 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *

TEDATA 


$ traceroute ikhwanonline.comh
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2)  2318.464 ms 2106.694 ms  1751.718 ms
 2  host-163.121.151.24.tedata.net (163.121.151.24)  1815.486 ms  2401.879 ms  1494.771 ms
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *


traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.1.1.1 (10.1.1.1)  1.081 ms  1.537 ms  1.016 ms
 2  host-81.10.17.93.tedata.net (81.10.17.93)  1.169 ms  1.173 ms  1.069 ms
 3  MAADI2R001 (163.121.138.8)  66.645 ms 199.630 ms  447.660 ms
 4  * * *
 5  * * *

Internet Egypt 


# traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  192.168.16.205 (192.168.16.205)  28.472 ms  29.116 ms  81.124 ms
 3  194.79.108.35 (194.79.108.35)  38.045 ms  30.992 ms  79.579 ms
 4  62.193.104.121 (62.193.104.121)  38.068 ms 194.79.101.29 (194.79.101.29)  42.572 ms  37.536 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *

this is exactly the same pattern I observed last time, the blocking is on the IP level (its not a webproxy) and ISPs are directly involved.

we need to find out which government agency is behind the blocking, how they work with ISPs and what are the legal tools employed here, we also need to think about an effective stratege to combat this in court.

will try to publish more info about the previous case I'm abit out of touch now.

( categories: Egypt | politics | Web )
traceroute from usa
Submitted by Al-Basha (not verified) on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 20:13.

Traceroute from UCSD - is hop 10 RITSEC?

Al-Basha

Tracing route to ikhwanonline.com 216.55.165.36 over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 57 ms 26 ms 6 ms 42.0.0.1 2 9 ms 4 ms 5 ms wireless-gw.ucsd.edu 128.54.48.1 3 70 ms 64 ms 73 ms ucsd-gw--nodem-msfc-ge.ucsd.edu 132.239.255.130 4 53 ms 71 ms 66 ms inet-lax-isp--ucsd-ucsd1-ge.cenic.net 137.164.24.209 5 53 ms 18 ms 8 ms unknown.Level3.net 64.156.191.9 6 29 ms 11 ms 22 ms so-0-3-0.bbr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net 4.68.96.77 7 95 ms 103 ms 25 ms so-3-0-0.mp2.SanDiego1.Level3.net 64.159.1.138

8 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms so-7-0-0.gar1.SanDiego1.Level3.net 4.68.113.70

9 19 ms 10 ms 11 ms Aplus-gw.Level3.net 209.245.56.130 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 43 ms 35 ms 35 ms NS1.MIHIRA.NET 216.55.165.36

Trace complete.

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ikhwan asked for censorship?
Submitted by issandr (not verified) on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 18:20.

Hey Alaa,

good work keeping track of this. I heard Link.net works, by the way, although maybe that's because they use some kind of proxy.

I'm intrigued by your comment about the Ikhwan MPs asking for the internet to be censored. Do you have any more info on that?

Thanks!

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link doesn't work
Submitted by alaa on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 21:33.

nope doesn't work from link got 4 reports from there.

as for their request to censor the net it was reported on one of the blogs and I think Al destour had a story about it, not sure which keywords to search for though.

mohammed says it could be the old block and been around even when they made the censorship proposal.

the block is very irregular, not all ikhwan websites and domains are blocked.

http://al-shaab.org seems to be blocked too.

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Thanx
Submitted by mo7afez on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 13:29.

Thnk u dear for the technical srticle u sent ... It was new and useful for me

I didn't know ur openion about it, r u happy or what

and I need to know others comments about that block

bye

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of course I'm not happy
Submitted by alaa on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 14:53.

why would censorship make me happy, internet censorship is the biggest of all evils.

tab3an its very ironic that the fucking ikhwan MPs where asking for internet censorship few weeks ago, they got it up their asses, but still even if its ironic it doesn't make me happy.

I was actually involved in the previous case BTW.

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thanks alaa
Submitted by mostafa (not verified) on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 08:15.

Hey, thanks for explaining and doing this mini-research. BTW I am link.net user and have a different pattern: 

 /usr/sbin/traceroute ikhwanonline.com
traceroute to ikhwanonline.com (216.55.165.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.243 ms  0.892 ms  0.658 ms
 2  82.201.233.254 (82.201.233.254)  42.767 ms  41.919 ms  40.579 ms
 3  172.17.1.149 (172.17.1.149)  40.904 ms  42.671 ms  74.265 ms
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *

I am sure there are other ways to fight the censorship. Ways that we can employ. For example we can issue a press release or a simply a blog about this ... google bomb this post with the names of the isps. We could block the blocking IPs from reaching the aggregator etc.. complain to an internet body concerened with free speech.

I don't know, what do you think ?

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traceroute explained
Submitted by alaa on Tue, 24/05/2005 - 07:29.

in case you don't know what a traceroute is read the wikipedia article

this is how it should normally look like:

result of tracerouting manalaa.net on link.net 


$ traceroute manalaa.net
traceroute to manalaa.net (209.135.157.57), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  router (192.168.0.1)  0.418 ms  0.392 ms  0.326 ms
 2  62.135.86.1 (62.135.86.1)  273.604 ms  166.813 ms  116.997 ms
 3  172.20.1.37 (172.20.1.37)  167.869 ms  284.478 ms  259.109 ms
 4  172.18.1.250 (172.18.1.250)  170.703 ms  313.413 ms  731.446 ms
 5  80.77.0.53 (80.77.0.53)  385.717 ms  248.989 ms  369.758 ms
 6  so-0-1-0.0.cjr01.alx001.flagtel.com (62.216.128.73)  199.114 ms  178.479 ms  182.197 ms
 7  so-3-2-0.0.cjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com (62.216.128.137)  254.525 ms  445.535 ms  273.948 ms
 8  so-2-1-0.0.cjr01.ldn004.flagtel.com (62.216.129.50)  522.922 ms *  626.222 ms
 9  195.66.226.185 (195.66.226.185)  453.668 ms  416.883 ms  216.504 ms
10  p10-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.46)  258.890 ms  337.120 ms  394.877 ms
11  p5-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.110)  310.345 ms  385.503 ms  306.868 ms
12  p2-0.core01.stl02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.66)  486.310 ms  372.504 ms  478.648 ms
13  * p1-0-1-0.a00.stlsmo04.us.ce.verio.net (198.88.239.198)  438.215 ms  307.007 ms
14  sys-216.87.62.253.primary.net (216.87.62.253)  392.159 ms  338.959 ms  582.716 ms
15  * stl-colo-01.primary.net (216.87.63.12)  736.515 ms  664.630 ms
16  vs657.rosehosting.com (209.135.157.57)  537.495 ms  418.485 ms  370.844 ms

you'll notice that traceroute reports is will try to reach (209.135.157.57), and thats the IP address that is reached in the last step.

in the case if ikhwanonline.com the final step is never reached, the final step is actually inside the ISPs network (we can find out who owns any IP address by asking the whois database).

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